Capleton cancelled in Humboldt Red Fox Tavern : "We have to make choices that will impact the future of our club and we are going to upset somebody, no matter what. We mean no disrespect to you or anyone. The fact is when others cancel dates over one incident, we have to do what will keep us in business. And yes, some think we are profiting on hate. We all know that this is not true! We are members of the community and have to pick and choose our battles. We love this place and we are in business for the sake of music. We apologize to the people supporting the show, the people who feel disrespected, the ones who will lose money, i.e the DJs, and the purveyors, distributors and ones providing backline and equiptment. There was never any intention of upsetting anyone, but clearly, it has upset everyone. We will move on and hope that we will bring shows that you continue to like seeing, as we do have the nicest sound, hospitality, and we throw a damn good party. There are many artists, managers, and fans who definitely know this to be fact." It happened after this was published I believe http://www.northcoastjournal.com/news/2012/09/27/westboro-goes-irie/ http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,317275#msg-317275 Wed, 22 May 2013 19:19:49 -0700 Phorum 5.2.15a http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318496#msg-318496 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318496#msg-318496
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gonna call Peta on this thread...animal abuse...ya'll beatin this horse to death...lobbyists should be in the capital not a festival forum...this ish is gay Im out

this...looks...awfully...familliar...am...i...the...only...one...who...picked...up...on...this...irie?...]]> rappy heggae SNWMF Phorum 2013 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:12:59 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318480#msg-318480 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318480#msg-318480 bun n cheese SNWMF Phorum 2013 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:14:11 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318474#msg-318474 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318474#msg-318474 Ninja SNWMF Phorum 2013 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:41:12 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318465#msg-318465 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318465#msg-318465
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gonna call Peta on this thread...animal abuse...ya'll beatin this horse to death...lobbyists should be in the capital not a festival forum...this ish is gay Im out

...and with that you reveal your ignorance to everyone here. This is a place to reason about reggae and the issues that affect the music, and all of us. Don't let the door hit you in the batty, man.]]> Stamina! SNWMF Phorum 2013 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:41:38 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318463#msg-318463 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318463#msg-318463 CINCYSTAR SNWMF Phorum 2013 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:22:49 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318166#msg-318166 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318166#msg-318166
]]> DaveinBaltimore SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:52:51 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318155#msg-318155 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318155#msg-318155 Ninja SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:39:03 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318154#msg-318154 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318154#msg-318154 randomguy2u SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:06:31 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318150#msg-318150 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318150#msg-318150 walking the surface of this planet, regardless of what each One thinks, feels, believes... jus plain respect

each a wi is due at least that]]> Ras Danny SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:14:31 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318148#msg-318148 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318148#msg-318148
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I think the goal of any "movement" should not be to oppress the thoughts of others. I can't make Capleton like gays any more then I can the Pope. They have the same view on the subject. You may think the rope that Capleton offered to gays is bad but I would prefer it to being told that when I die I will not only suffere I will suffer in the worst way for being who I am and then beyond that being told my suffereing will NEVER end. I Believe in the right to play a show and the right to protest a show. Having said that I would say maybe 1/3 of the crowd may be aware of his views. the other 2/3rds ZERO clue, they just came to see a good stage show and that is what they got. Don't fool yourselves into thinking may of the same artitst we big up on a daily basis don't feel the same way. They just don't say it.

Or they do say it, just not as extreme so it goes unnoticed]]> iriebarto SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:04:06 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318147#msg-318147 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318147#msg-318147 Ninja SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:37:51 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318145#msg-318145 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318145#msg-318145
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AND ALL women!

Exactly....]]> Original RuffNeck Sol Jah SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:22:53 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318144#msg-318144 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318144#msg-318144 Ras Danny SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:09:16 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318143#msg-318143 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318143#msg-318143 Original RuffNeck Sol Jah SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:13:53 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318142#msg-318142 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318142#msg-318142 nomotrouble SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:05:25 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318141#msg-318141 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318141#msg-318141 nomotrouble SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:04:36 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318140#msg-318140 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318140#msg-318140 east bay herbalist SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:54:55 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318139#msg-318139 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318139#msg-318139 What I mean is to think that everyone will accept gays is very unrealistic.
And unfair to others beliefs be they religious, social, etc.]]> Original RuffNeck Sol Jah SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:50:06 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318138#msg-318138 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318138#msg-318138 nomotrouble SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:41:53 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318137#msg-318137 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318137#msg-318137
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Asking for equal rights is extreme? Funny, I thought singing about shooting, killing, and hanging gay people was extreme.

Not being willing to compromise is extreme, yes.
Even if I did agree with you, that viewpoint is very unrealistic....]]> Original RuffNeck Sol Jah SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:27:21 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318136#msg-318136 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318136#msg-318136

Of course that doesn't make you a bad person.
That's the issue I have with these gay rights supporters.
It's all or nothing with them.
As J72 said, he isn't going to be happy until EVERYONE supports gay rights.
Whereas, others may not be so extreme and are actually willing to come to some sort of compromise...."

First of all, one man CAN change the minds of many...it's done all the time.

Secondly, change the word 'gay' in this paragraph to any other minority group. Like black....

Of course that doesn't make you a bad person.
That's the issue I have with these black rights supporters.
It's all or nothing with them.
As J72 said, he isn't going to be happy until EVERYONE supports black rights.

Sounds pretty bad like that, huh?

Of course that doesn't make you a bad person.
That's the issue I have with these womens rights supporters.
It's all or nothing with them.
As J72 said, he isn't going to be happy until EVERYONE supports womens rights.
Whereas, others may not be so extreme and are actually willing to come to some sort of compromise...."

BIG BIG up J72]]> nomotrouble SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:54:24 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318135#msg-318135 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318135#msg-318135 J_72 SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:52:38 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318133#msg-318133 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318133#msg-318133
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I also have a fantasy where all DJ's rally and boycott dancehall in defense of all the "murdered soundbwoys".

bout fell off my chair kinda funny]]> EmpressLove SNWMF Phorum 2013 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:35:32 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318126#msg-318126 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318126#msg-318126
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One man cant change the mind of many.. so live and let live like dem say ... iam. Not a bad person cuz i go see capleton live so keep trying

Of course that doesn't make you a bad person.
That's the issue I have with these gay rights supporters.
It's all or nothing with them.
As J72 said, he isn't going to be happy until EVERYONE supports gay rights.
Whereas, others may not be so extreme and are actually willing to come to some sort of compromise....]]> Original RuffNeck Sol Jah SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:53:49 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318125#msg-318125 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318125#msg-318125 iriebarto SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:42:59 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318124#msg-318124 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318124#msg-318124
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Finally

Finally you can just be irie and not worry man...just dance to the music dude....don't let those homos bother you...irie man irie....

James, I have met gay people from Jamaica who moved here to avoid the harassment, but it is good to know the PM is speaking about it. Peace Man.]]> J_72 SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:44:45 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318122#msg-318122 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318122#msg-318122
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.

Well that makes it all better for the gay people in JA that live in daily fear and anxiety.

To be fair, not all gay people live that way in JA. Have you ever been to New Kingston? There are lots of homosexuals there. Even where I live I have lesbian neighbors. The Prime Minister here has even been very vocal about gay rights. I think you'll find the vast majority of people in this country, even if they feel something is wrong, are pretty live and let live.

Thank you for shedding that light ... good to hear from someone who lives there and knows..]]> iriebarto SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:11:14 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318121#msg-318121 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318121#msg-318121
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.

Well that makes it all better for the gay people in JA that live in daily fear and anxiety.

To be fair, not all gay people live that way in JA. Have you ever been to New Kingston? There are lots of homosexuals there. Even where I live I have lesbian neighbors. The Prime Minister here has even been very vocal about gay rights. I think you'll find the vast majority of people in this country, even if they feel something is wrong, are pretty live and let live.]]> Ras James SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:56:05 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318118#msg-318118 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318118#msg-318118 iriebarto SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:38:20 -0700 http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318117#msg-318117 Re: Capleton cancelled in Humboldt http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,317275,318117#msg-318117
I'm done, keep turning a blind eye....]]> J_72 SNWMF Phorum 2013 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:18:37 -0700