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Buju Banton vs Christafari

Posted by FLEXIMIX 
Buju Banton vs Christafari
November 30, 2009 03:04PM
Quite the allegation about the knife attack - does anyone know more about this?



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HM: I heard that your lead singer wrote a tract about the truth of Rastafarianism, exposing it as a false religion, pointing people to Jesus. I heard that it circulated around the bands on the bill, and they slowly turned against this singer. What are the exact details?

MM: Yeah, that was me. At the completion of my first booklet titled "Rastafari and the Bible (An Eschatological Study of the Second Coming)", we, (Christafari) began making my writings available at our shows in booklet form. When we joined the Reggae Sunsplash tour we handed the booklets out for free to searching souls that we spoke with after the show. The writing simply compared the life of Haile Selassie (who many worship as Christ) with the life of Christ and how the Scriptures say he will return. Somehow the writing began circulating among the artists. After all of the other artists on the tour read my booklet the verbal abuse and spiritual attacks began. In fact, the headlining artist on the tour Buju Banton, (then the World's most famous Dancehall DJ) took a brief visit to Jamaica during the tour and brought the writing to the Rastafari elders. They said that my writing was a fulfillment of Rastafari prophecy that a wolf would come in sheep's clothing and try and infiltrate the flock. They called me an antichrist.

HM: How did that feel?

MM: It was tough to hear, and it definitely bummed me out at first, but I tried to take it in stride because I knew that persecution is the mark of a true believer. It was almost validating. As I sing on our latest album To The Foundation, "Persecution is a promise, it's a guarantee. If they're not against us then you should worry. So don't fret, it's not a big thing-you'll never find a servant treated better than his King."

HM: So what happened next?

MM: Things just started escalating and comments that were once said from afar were now being said to my face. I'll never forget when we arrived at our hotel in Cleveland, I ended up getting in the same elevator as Buju and he was going off on me, cussing me out and vehemently shouting curses against me invoking Jah to "Fire burn me". It was intense! Then when we finally got to my floor I quickly exited the elevator only to realize that he was staying on the same floor as me in the room across from me! All night long I could hear him shouting curses at me through the walls so I called our pastor for counsel and got the band together for a prayer session.

HM: What happened after that?

MM: It was early in the morning on the Fourth of July and some real fireworks were about to go off! We had a bus call at around 11am and three of my band members were kind enough to escort me as my security detail. While in the elevator on the way to the lobby my bassist mentioned that he had seen Buju sitting in the lobby since 8am. When I came into the lobby of the plush hotel there he was still waiting for me. Once he saw me he stood up and vigorously walked towards me yelling; "Tansoback (That was my nickname), if you're a soldier, yuh haffi cyan defend it (You must be able to defend yourself)!" He punched me in the throat, which took me by surprise, and then pulled a six-inch blade from his belt, whipped it open and took a strong swing towards my gut. If I had not lunged backwards each time he swung at me I surely would have been sliced open. Once this happened His band members and mine tackled him. He managed to break free and swing his knife at me three more times before I fled the lobby and waited for the police to come. When the cops arrived they found his knife and asked me if I wanted to press charges. If I did, Buju would not be able to tour the USA for at least another 10 years. Despite the advice of others, I forgave him and refused to press charges. I figured that he would never accept my God of grace and forgiveness if I didn't first offer it to him as an example and representative of Christ.

HM: Did you guys stay on the tour?

MM: Some of the other band members wanted to leave but I insisted on staying. If we had left, the enemy would have been victorious. We still faced persecution on the tour and had everything from beer bottles to rocks thrown at us while on stage, but that didn't waver my determination to keep preaching the gospel. I wrote the song "Warriors" from the experience while on the tour so it was very cathartic. As the tour progressed we managed to reconcile with the rest of the performers and by the last show, I even had a heart to heart with Buju and managed to earn his respect. I think that one of our greatest witnesses on the tour was in what we did NOT do or say when under pressure. Our actions spoke louder than words.
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
November 30, 2009 08:23PM
Flex, mo' old news...

In the meantime, I just had lunch @ a wonderful Indian buffet in an 11th floor restaurant, overlooking the St. Louis airport. 50 degrees, sunny and bright;
an after-meal draw was in order...
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
November 30, 2009 08:58PM
You are making me hungry here with that description papa ray. For some nice indian food, and dessert : )

Sad when people resort to violence to defend their all-powerful god against human insults. Why not just let him use lightning on them, that would surely put the fear of one's god into more people than two dudes yelling and fighting.

Also lame to preach that business on a reggae / primarily Rasta tour. Kind of like going on tour with a bunch of Muslims and politely reminding them Jesus is their savior all the time and their beliefs are wrong. Not a bright idea when dealing with religious people from a violent culture.

But that is the Christian way for some, making oneself a target, bait the other side and then gracefully turn the other cheek after they take the bait. I'm not saying that is the case with this guy or band but often the case with Christians I have known. Kind of a Charlie Brown, "why is everybody always picking on me ?" mentality. Well Charlie, they are picking on you because you act like you are better than everyone else and constantly remind them that you believe they ( non- believers of your specific faith ) are wrong and damned eternally for not following your faith. When they also have a strong faith and don't mind using violence ( they got God's back too, their god also needs them to defend his honor in the streets) then it becomes a "holy war."

And only then is god truly happy, when he can see his creations destroying one another in his name.
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 01, 2009 12:14AM
This is INDEED a true story as I was present when all of the bands were checking in and BUJU most certaintly went TOTALLY ballistic outside the elevator!!!!! ( This was at the Holiday Inn Lakeside). I recall standing next to Pipe and Bread, Freddie McGregor, Sister Carol etc. etc. and all respective backing bands and crew, possibly as many as 70-80 people if not more???? and Buju went totally insane . Most of the other performers seemed to be ashamed and somewhat Embarrised by such childish behavior!!!!! (According to one of the band members this incident had brewing for a while and it all came to a head on that day in Cleveland!!!!!). While I did't personally witness the actual knife incident the following morning according to some local Cleveland Rasta's and Empresses;the knife incident definately occured!~!!!!! ( At least 4-5 local Cleveland bredrin I know all told me the same account!!!!) I am totally convinced that had Buju been packin' that day then Cristafari Bredrin -Mark???? would not be here this day!!!!! Buju indeed made a fool of himself in Cleveland and obviously has severe anger management issues!!!!!!!
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 02, 2009 02:13PM
Great comments there duborganic..

Papa Ray that too makes me peckish for some tasty eats...

Blessvibe - Wow - amazing & how totally bizarre.. (!)..

Beyond anger management - flipping out like that & allegedly carrying on yelling through the walls all night & then lying in wait for several hours in order to carry out a knife attack is a sign of being seriously nuts.
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 02, 2009 09:01PM
in all fairness i think this christafari mark mohr or whatever his name is had it coming. he apparently endlessly harassed buju banton and others on the tour. the guy should know you dont trifle with jamaican people like that. they are used to taking care of things and people who openly harass them do so at their own great peril. im not sure where this part about every is expected to be peaceful no matter what came from but these are jamaican yardies youre talking about and not accustomed to letting some idiot from the suburbs shout blasphemies after being repeatedly told to get lost.

i think that mm guy is a whiner and got exactly what he put his bait out for. at least it was mostly threats and not real action. and its pretty laughable that he says he jumped back otherwise bujus knife would have sliced him. i could pretty well guarantee that if buju had wanted to slice him, he would have sliced him. guys who grow up with a knife in their hand dont often miss when they are serious.

one love
jah bill
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 02, 2009 09:45PM
JB.. love the insight...

big up JB and the nor-cal crew each and everytime.
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 02, 2009 10:25PM
BuJu is not stupid he just scared the man a bit.I once watched 5 yardies with ratches out and ready to do business chase one local dime bag runner down the street in D.C. bwoy if they caught him it would a been bad. Crack heads should be sent to the Olympics. Mark Mohr is another idiot! trying to sell roman catholic-ism off as rasta.He's another ego seller(god's select?). why call your band christa fari?, Oh to make people think you are a positive part of something you are not and against for the most part. Why because he can and will use his white privilege. OOps!



Post Edited (12-02-09 15:33)
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 02, 2009 10:35PM
Talk about biting the hand that fed you...
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 02, 2009 11:56PM
Christafari is still playing music ?? WHY!
come on ever hear his 1st CD?
back to first question,, He is still playing???????????????? WHY!!
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 12:28AM

i wonder if the fellow with the little stubby dreads was one of his bodyguard entourage?

my mother in-law actually mailed me out one of his cd's for christmas, bless her heart, suffice to say it ended up being traded(still in shrink wrap mind you) for an old winston marsalis vinyl. never really gave it a chance, maybe should have sent it out to reggaefan?
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 01:27AM
I dunno Ryan I may have to side with Buju on this one, that ras jesus guy is just too irritating for words
ok , maybe the knife attack was a little over the top...
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 01:53AM
echo that should read "dreadlock" jesus guy

MM is no Ras, he'd be the 1st to tell you that
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 02:15AM
I was just making a bad joke , that band bugs me
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 04:34AM

yeah fleximix.......contagious.......the stupidity shown by one man is quite contagious......gives u the nuts to talk bad on the forum eh

you're doin great with your internet activism flex jus see if you can muster as much courage as yer boy Mark to take yer criticism to any artist face......DOUBT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 04:38PM



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The ultimate, total:



My friends have told me about this fool but yikes, didn't know he was this big of a tool.

Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 04:46PM
Forget throwing mi corn - I'm ready to do some serious flinging at the next Christafari concert...



Ras Smoka, count on it - that IS the next show that I WILL be attending... you with me on this trip?
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 05:40PM
I thought Christafari was running Mt Lion HiFi Sound? Along side Sapo aka JuanLove?
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 05:49PM
Totally different people.......

Christafari/MLS


Christafari Band (Marc Mohr)
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 10:47PM
well what up with Christafari of MLS then?? He have similar beliefs or does he go by that name for different reasons?
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 03, 2009 10:53PM
his name is prob chris

whereas mohr is all about Christ
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 04, 2009 02:16AM
Mark Mohr- Christian
Haile Selassie I- Christian

Not sure why the dissing?

Jeff
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 04, 2009 02:30AM
i would say the dissing is from people's distaste for mark using the tafari name in his act to evangelize. it's a ruse.
there's nothing wrong w/ christian reggae, but the faux rasta facade as some infiltration method is, in the words of krisscross,...wicketywicketywhack

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Post Edited (12-03-09 20:07)

"Love The Life You Live & Live The Life You Love" Papa Briggy
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 04, 2009 03:30AM
I totally agree with that Ras A.

Jeff
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 04, 2009 04:49AM
I love Christ conscious reggae to the max especially JA's top 'Christ' conscious reggae singer George Nooks check him on youtube my fave song is "no matter what the circumstances" I dind Mohr's music way to dogmatic and literal and I gave it and open sky mind listen and it did not hold water for me. In Ethiopia the Coptic Christians live a daily existence of Christ Consciousness as second nature they're not out to convert. I always have said and wrote a song that main line is"there is no monopoly on love so give all your thanks to the most high above he descend upon my soul just like a dove" Sellasie I!
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 05, 2009 09:51PM
humph
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 12:27PM
wow, first time i heard that story, but it does not shock me. As much as I like dancehall music, i find the artist to be very insecure. Buju while a great performer has consistently has shown his character to be questionable at many points.
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 06:34PM
@RasataPhari

Back weh with your Ogden and Tek-Rasta-Fi-A-Joke vibes!!!

How can you even relate to Buju? Ogden and St George are a far cry from St Ann... Buju is a Maroon.. A warrior of African descent.. Maroons carry a deep and convicted spirituality about them. So deep and convicted that they could not be enslaved.. Buju comes from that same line of people who put nuff daggers in the hearts of some wicked men... Wicked men who captured slaves in the name of and blessing of the pope!!

So you think with all that history flowing through Bujus blood that you expect him to carry some passive attitude about his religion?
I think people have reggae and rasta music confused.. It is not some peace and love, pie-in-the-sky music. It is a music that is dressed in sweetness, but cloaked in lethality.
Consider these lyrics from notable Rasta artists. I only cite 70s artists as I assume you are caught up in some hippy dazed, misconstrued ideal of reggae.

"catch a fire you're gonna get burned"

"if i dont get my desire, then i'll set your plantation on fire"

So with all this in mind, do you think you can just come up to some heartical rootsman and tell him his religion is wrong? Expect to get cut indeed....

MM should know who he is dealing with. Just because MM wears up some locks, and puts a likkle 'a-wanka-a-wanka' in his guitar strum, doesnt mean he can then tell a next man what god to worship. So MM should just hold his corner.. Save his preaching to the US suburban youth..
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 07:34PM
What's with the mancrush on Buju?

Buju is sooooooooooo cool - everything he says and does is the shizz man!

Jook christian, cuss bad wud, beat g*ys, shoot 'im gun, smoke di weed - RASTAFARI!!!



Post Edited (12-07-09 11:44)

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Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 07:40PM
@FlexMix

Why the continual negativity posts..? All your posts are simply citations of someone's downfall or of someone's 'bad luck'.. as if you get a rise out of seeing conflict in another's life..

"Chatty chatty mouth.. be wise and know your culture.."
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 07:46PM
militant soldier of jesus:



Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 07:50PM

Just wait til they get their hands on the nuclear football..
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 07:58PM
@FlexMix

Has nothing to do with a man-crush.. In fact I dont even check or rate Buju.. I just acknowledge his lineage, and understand that his people have been through it nuff.. Knowing that, do you then think it sensible for MM to be as blatant and in-your-face with his proselytizing?

I mean the guy, MM, comes from sub-urban Las Vegas, not two seconds away from leaving a casino, and is now telling a heartical ras to denounce his culture and his beliefs..
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 08:33PM
sounds like another white teenage suburbanite strait off the phish tour lecturing on the one-drop and what "reggae" really is.
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 07, 2009 08:45PM
Buju acts like the archetypal psycho Kingston ghetto street punk - nothing to do with his supposed Maroon lineage IMO.

I'm not saying in any way that the Christafari dude might not be irritating to be around, but on the other hand it is true that most 'normal' people don't react the way Buju does to what annoys them. You'd think a reggae star like Buju would have better things to do on tour than spend hours yelling through the wall & lying in wait for hours to knife Christafari-man..

Fwiw - Most Jamaicans are hard-working, honest and very religious (Christian) folk who abhor crime & violence.

Everyone loves a victorious rebel story ....with respect to the Maroons, their tenacity and their ability to tactically defeat the British forces, an interesting factoid about the Maroons is they eventually signed a treaty with British which, in return for being left alone, included the agreement for the Maroons to subsequently capture & return escaped slaves for a bounty and also support the British forces militarily in case of attack. How's that for some irony? The World is a strange mixed-up place isn't it?



Post Edited (12-07-09 13:07)

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Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 12:50AM
>spend hours yelling through the wall & lying in wait for hours to knife

were you there? i ask because you sure seem to take the one side pretty unquestioningly. maybe mm is prone to exaggeration? nah couldnt possibly. i mean this is a guy who evidently stands on stage with his arms outstretched as if on the crucifix as he "sings".

one love
jah bill
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 12:53AM
honestly, anyone who's been forced to sit through a Christafari record has probably had the same feelings as buju. Christians included. I don't care what the guy's religion is, him and his music are just plain weak and annoying.

What I suspect probably really happened was buju told him off, and he went around claiming buju tried to stab him to gain some publicity for his weak-sauce band



Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 12:59AM
on another jesus warrior front:

Man Arrested for Throwing Tomatoes at Sarah Palin, Police Say
A man was arrested for allegedly throwing two tomatoes at Sarah Palin from the second floor balcony during a book signing event at the Mall of America in Minnesota, MyFoxTwinCities.com. reported.

Neither tomato came close hitting the former 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, but did hit a police officer in the face, the station reported.

The unidentified man may face charges for assaulting a police officer, according to the station.

Die-hard supporters treated the event like another Black Friday, lining up outside in freezing weather before the mall doors opened at 5 a.m.

Emily Calhoon, a high school junior from Minnetonka, took the day off school with a group of fellow students and arrived at 4:45 a.m. Calhoon, 16, said she likes Palin's conservatism.

"She's a lot more relatable than the stereotypical old rich white male," said Calhoon as she waited in line, clutching a copy of Palin's memoir of her life and political career, "Going Rogue."

The former Alaska governor arrived just before noon. Wearing her trademark red, she took the stage joined by her husband Todd and carrying their son, Trig.

Palin did not address the crowd and did not take questions from the large contingent of reporters. She started signing books immediately.

Fans wanting a signed copy had to purchase it from Barnes & Noble, the event's sponsor. Most in line had two copies.

Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 05:02AM

okay.......anyone else realize that triximix is a trick?????????

Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 08:29AM
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>spend hours yelling through the wall & lying in wait for hours to knife

were you there? i ask because you sure seem to take the one side pretty unquestioningly. maybe mm is prone to exaggeration? nah couldnt possibly. i mean this is a guy who evidently stands on stage with his arms outstretched as if on the crucifix as he "sings". >


Lol J.B. - true man, I wasn't there nor is there CCTV footage, so I guess the caveat 'allegedly' does apply. Still - such an incident sounds believable knowing yard-style conflict resolution methods. I will admit that the C-fari reasonings & 'tude are kind of grating, still I wouldn't wish for the guy to get sliced up like a cod filet, but that's me personally... winking smiley
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 04:16PM

trick.............
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
December 08, 2009 04:22PM
Christafari is a pompous ass and his proselytism is borderline silly. He's one of those Bush-Christians that caused so much grief to America and the World. If only his music was worth listening!
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
January 10, 2010 03:39AM
You Are right, But Its a Diffrent ChristafarI, With Diffrent Views....Better choice of tunes if you ask me> Big Up MLS
Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
January 10, 2010 04:08PM
>SessEmpress

What up girl? How you been? Hail up UR brother & famz for me!



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Re: Buju Banton vs Christafari
January 11, 2010 10:57AM
>i remember hearing about this over a decade ago...
>i also heard christo'''' had a alot of beer cups thrown at him while playing a festival in Jamaica back in dem tour days of his...?
>It is a good thing that Selassie I visited the white house a long time ago before christo's likkle concert for G.Bush or whatever that was about also...
>praize JAH RasTafari everytime before you think about buying any Reggae music from an evangelist book store a.k.a. eccono-christ shop!



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