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The extent to which some folks are willing to go to excuse Capleton (and other REDRUM CISUM artistes) for their morally bankrupt opinions that gays folks be killed simply because they are who they are is amazing. I see you people working - you admire the man's talent and you want to see him perform - there's just this 'small' problem that people keep blowing out of proportion... So to assuage the guilt you must be feeling (unless your a sociopath) at the hypocrisy of this situation - supporting a man who seeks to profit by chanting for the death of gay folks while supporting concepts that are core to this music such as "One Love", tolerance, and eglatarianism. So we get comments like these
"deviant..."
"cultural belief"
"pedofile and sodomist"
... and this unbelievable question:
"Really, hasn't the "bun battyman" era in reggae really subsided?"
Really? Listen to yourselves, you are trying to defend the indefensible. Look, there is no arguement - it is over - you are on the losing side. Murdering people is wrong.
So when Capleton comes, go enjoy yourselves. Smoke mass quantities of weed and get "Irie" - just walk past the protesters with a rueful shake of your head and small smile to yourselves - they can't be expected to understand - they have no understanding of the "culture". Pay up, go in and sway to every song. Big up Capleton when he sings (IN DEFIANCE) of the protest, one of his batty songs. Whatever lies you must tell yourself to make supporting an artiste who advocates for the killing of other people OK for you, tell. But please, don't try to come on here are defend that decison by using those same lies. It makes you look silly and, frankly, sad.
Enjoy the concert.
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There is a big difference between watching a violent movie, or even listening to a song with a story about violence (Hey Joe), and preaching a straight up message of hanging gay folks, or shooting them, or carving them up. One is "art" and one is a sermon of hate, imo. I watch violent movies, and I listen to songs that have violence in the story ("Jack Straw from Witchita shot his buddy down..." ) I refuse to listen to a person blatantly encourage violence against people.
And really, don't you think gay people and kids go through enough bullying and harassment to have to listen to a musician sing blatant messages of hate and violence?
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Change is best made by [communication]. Thats what we're doing here, and i thank all the participants.
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Everyone has double standards. There are some things we can stand and some we can't. It's just disappointing to see how many people who love reggae can justify tolerating discrimination toward gays when they would not tolerate it toward other minority groups. Perhaps in the mind we separate 'them' from 'us' and so we dismiss it. Since one of my immediate family is gay, for me its very personal. Now if you F&%$ with the gay community, you're F&%$in' wit Nomo.
Change is best made by talking. Thats what we're doing here, and i thank all the participants. I'm not saying i wouldn't go see Capleton. I don't let others make my convictions for me.
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.
Well that makes it all better for the gay people in JA that live in daily fear and anxiety.
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.
Well that makes it all better for the gay people in JA that live in daily fear and anxiety.
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Capleton already signed the Compassion Act, so he won't be performing any of his anti-gay material abroad and it should be a moot point. Gays have the right to marry, but people have the right to see whatever concert they like also. Live & let live extends to all sides.
Well that makes it all better for the gay people in JA that live in daily fear and anxiety.
To be fair, not all gay people live that way in JA. Have you ever been to New Kingston? There are lots of homosexuals there. Even where I live I have lesbian neighbors. The Prime Minister here has even been very vocal about gay rights. I think you'll find the vast majority of people in this country, even if they feel something is wrong, are pretty live and let live.
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One man cant change the mind of many.. so live and let live like dem say ... iam. Not a bad person cuz i go see capleton live so keep trying
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Asking for equal rights is extreme? Funny, I thought singing about shooting, killing, and hanging gay people was extreme.
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AND ALL women!
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I think the goal of any "movement" should not be to oppress the thoughts of others. I can't make Capleton like gays any more then I can the Pope. They have the same view on the subject. You may think the rope that Capleton offered to gays is bad but I would prefer it to being told that when I die I will not only suffere I will suffer in the worst way for being who I am and then beyond that being told my suffereing will NEVER end. I Believe in the right to play a show and the right to protest a show. Having said that I would say maybe 1/3 of the crowd may be aware of his views. the other 2/3rds ZERO clue, they just came to see a good stage show and that is what they got. Don't fool yourselves into thinking may of the same artitst we big up on a daily basis don't feel the same way. They just don't say it.
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gonna call Peta on this thread...animal abuse...ya'll beatin this horse to death...lobbyists should be in the capital not a festival forum...this ish is gay Im out
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