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See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money

Posted by jcom 
See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 07:21AM
From Huff Post: While 18 states -- and soon to be 19 with the addition of New Hampshire -- as well as the District of Columbia have legalized marijuana for medical use, federal law still considers it a Schedule I controlled substance, meaning it is judged not to have any medicinal qualities. Obama's administration has spent nearly $300 million to fund enforcement efforts against medical marijuana in these states.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 01:28PM
Nothing short of full legalization can be the goal. As long as there is a federal ban, a dark cloud is over our country. As more states come to full legalization it will be brought up on the federal level. Just as Clinton felt he had to support that abomination DOMA law, Obama feels he has to still be at war with pot. It's embarrassing. Being a hypocrite means you are wrong. When it came to ganja and my kids, i refused to be a hypocrite, and managed to raise them to adulthood without doing so. And still, they didn't discover my ganja use until they were in their late teens. It is possible to not be a hypocrite, but Obama has chosen that path. Be strong President Obama, and before you leave office, do the right thing!

Love that reggae!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 02:42PM
Not sure if it's being a hypocrite or treading carefully in a very hostile environment, or that marijauana doesn't have the priority of the two wars, economy, jobs, and closing Gtmo. Seems there more important items on the agenda right now.

I also don't think people realize how hard that job is- what you want to do vs. what happens often changes once the person is in office.

Peace
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 03:45PM
Hypocrisy is holding a belief or saying something and then doing the opposite.

When he ran for the office, Obama said he would not crack down on medical dispensaries that complied with State laws. After a brief respite upon taking office, Obama began cracking down on medical dispensaries that comply with State laws. That sure sounds hypocritical to me.....
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 03:55PM
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J_72
Not sure if it's being a hypocrite or treading carefully in a very hostile environment, or that marijauana doesn't have the priority of the two wars, economy, jobs, and closing Gtmo. Seems there more important items on the agenda right now.

I also don't think people realize how hard that job is- what you want to do vs. what happens often changes once the person is in office.

Peace
No, he's being a hypocrite pure and simple. He's also a liar and a personal agenda pusher. What he should have done was treaded carefully while he was making all his promises. At the end of the day Republican and Democrat both = Politician, and more times than not Politician = two faced crook.

I don't give 2 turds how hard his job is. If he wasnt ready for the pressure he shouldn't have put his hat in the ring.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 07:06PM
I'm with you E.B. herbalist, except I don't think it's a personal agenda that Obama's pushing but rather that of the corporate elites. It's been that way for a long time now, everyone should realize this if we are going to change things for the better...
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 07:11PM
this is off topic and should be posted somewhere else
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 07:54PM
I'm the OP and it is not off topic at all. This forum stays alive and vibrant throughout the year with discussions indirectly or not related to SNWMF. Many of the artists past and this year consider this a very important topic.

Seeing as how our excellent moderator shared his thoughts on the topic above, I think he would agree with me. Either way, it is his call to make.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 08:00PM
Plenty off topic threads get posted here, medical ganja is something many of us care about. You want to talk off topic? sports threads, man, they have nothing to do with reggae, but they get posted here also.

Is it me, or do the post festival vibes this year seem a little harsh?

Love that reggae!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 08:19PM
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nomotrouble
Is it me, or do the post festival vibes this year seem a little harsh?

I'm with you NoMo.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 08:41PM
I'm very disappointed in Obama on this issue and many other issues as well. I initally had high expectations but have since realized that this was simply foolish misplaced optimism on my part.

I really think Eric Holder is the probably the guy responsible for the crackdown and money spent on the Medical MJ crackdown. Obama should care but my guess is he doesnt care and that he doesn't care he's not living up to his pledge not to interfere with state law. But, Eric Holder is Obama's guy so the buck stops with Obama.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 09:09PM
i have been DISGUSTED with the entire system of non-governing for years now.i also KNOW that WE THE PEOPLE are the change and progress.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 09:24PM
Decriminization is the way

~Highest Heightz Every Time~
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 09:59PM
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nomotrouble
Plenty off topic threads get posted here, medical ganja is something many of us care about. You want to talk off topic? sports threads, man, they have nothing to do with reggae, but they get posted here also.

Is it me, or do the post festival vibes this year seem a little harsh?

I think we can always work on being positive and respecting others. Easy to say tough to do. Reggae is positive and uplifting and I know of guilty of my negative comments just like anyone else.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 10:04PM
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Rhythmwize
I'm very disappointed in Obama on this issue and many other issues as well. I initally had high expectations but have since realized that this was simply foolish misplaced optimism on my part.

I really think Eric Holder is the probably the guy responsible for the crackdown and money spent on the Medical MJ crackdown. Obama should care but my guess is he doesnt care and that he doesn't care he's not living up to his pledge not to interfere with state law. But, Eric Holder is Obama's guy so the buck stops with Obama.
Holder is a huge problem in himself. Why this guy hasn't been handed his walking papers over the whole fast and the furious debacle is beyond me. Anybody else that performs at their job the way he has would have been @#$%& canned long time ago.....
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 10:06PM
Maybe it's like when i come back from Hawaii, i'm in such a bad mood. Everyday life does not contrast well with those three days of snwmf.

As far as Obama is concerned, though i am deeply disappointed in several policies of his, i am more than sure i would be much much more angry if Romney had been elected, let alone McCain. You don't get to pick what you want, just the lesser of two evils.

Love that reggae!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 10:09PM
And the tea party pugilists have been trying to find something to plaster on him since he was first elected. It's taken them this long, and all they've found is this irs business and the made up shrill Benghazi thing. If thats all the racists could find, his administration must be squeaky clean.

Love that reggae!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 29, 2013 10:19PM
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nomotrouble
And the tea party pugilists have been trying to find something to plaster on him since he was first elected. It's taken them this long, and all they've found is this irs business and the made up shrill Benghazi thing. If thats all the racists could find, his administration must be squeaky clean.
let's not forget the phone tracing......besides I'm sure Obama has way more dirt to be found, I mean he is president of the USA. You don't get elected without some serious skeletons hiding in big money lobbyists closets. The reason the tea party idiots can't dig anything up is because they are still in disbelief that we have a black president. I don't think that will ever settle in with some of those folk...



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Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 30, 2013 04:26PM
I'm sick of this lesser of 2 evils nonsense. Viva la Revolucion!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 30, 2013 04:32PM
Revolution.... Mobocracy
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 30, 2013 04:59PM
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Reggabe
I'm sick of this lesser of 2 evils nonsense. Viva la Revolucion!
I am totaly with you on the lesser of two evils nonsense. I dont support any party over another, therefore if I don't like a canididate, I don't cast my vote. I know people are going to have a huge problem with that, but I really don't care. I'm tired of being force feed information, policies, agendas, choices and candidates. Revolutions do n't always need to be in the form of war and violence. It can simply be in the form of the people revolting against the status quo and set a new presidence for what WE THE PEOPLE want.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 30, 2013 05:55PM
GWB's Patriot act paved the way for Obama. Not to mention how may Trillions he pissed away to accomplish virtually nothing positive. Obama is just another Muppet in. Never ending epiode of Kroft Super Stars. The anger should be directed to the "game" rather than the "playa" of the day.

~Highest Heightz Every Time~
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 30, 2013 07:35PM
what does this have to do with SNWMF or reggae music in general???

and dont tell me about the link between ganja use and the music...
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
June 30, 2013 07:42PM
and dont tell me about the link between ganja use and the music...


Why, because to you that would be a valid link and would negate your question? Leaving your post as just an expression of your bad mood? Why do you interject unrelated questions into a discussion? Do you do this to all discussions on this board which you feel are off topic? I think not. Perhaps there is something about this particular discussion which vexes you? Maybe you should tell us about it. Otherwise, it might be best for you to ignore discussions that you don't care about, even if you don't understand why others care about them.

Love that reggae!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 02:42AM
^^^ Well said NoMo. What's up with the sudden wanna be forum police peanut gallery? Moderating is Daniel's job....let him do it. Even he gave his thoughts on the subject matter.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 03:00AM
A politician not living up to his promises??
This is my shocked face!

Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 05:44AM
funny read! thanks folks! yaba daba doo

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Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 06:30PM
I agree Ras Danny -- Frickin' Hilarious.

Look, I am disappointed with Obama as well. But he was definitely the choice in 2008 and, even more in 2012 for all thinking folks. However, he's let me down on a variety of issues: government transparency, closing of Gitmo, lack of prosecution of anyone on Wall St. for the largest financial crisis since the Great Depression, drone policy, lip-service to gun control, etc. But compared to the alternatives presented to us in 2008 and 2012, I am proud to say that I voted for him and, give the same choices in the same circumstances, would happily do so again.

Full disclosure - I am a socialist. I think that capitalism is an evil system and our political system was created by our corporate masters to create the illusion of 'rights' and 'choice' - ultimately, our political system is a system of control.

Capitalism thrives on the back of cheap labor - so it creates what it needs to survive, like all systems of control. It creates a class of desperately poor people to serve the machine with cheap labor. It creates a class of consumers, with the fictional label of 'the middle class', by extending credit made easy to obtain but hard to escape from -- lose your job and you instantly lose your middle class status. You are then relegated to the cheap labor pool (aka, 'the poor'). The middle-class fears becoming poor more than anything else.

All of this is in service to maintaining the wealthy.



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Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 06:35PM
...nothing to do with bad moods or forum policing

I just think its weird how every year about 3-5 days after the festival is over the board transitions to a place that discusses pretty much everything other than the SNWMF

And actually my first post was more in line with that pic stamina posted...

Carry On Gents!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 07:18PM
sounds like you guys should all be mad at yourselves for believing him in the first place...

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Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 09:47PM
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HiGrade1
sounds like you guys should all be mad at yourselves for believing him in the first place...

I never did, voted libertarian both times. Gary Johnson is my man!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 09:56PM
And i only needed one reason to vote for him, the supreme court picks. How the republicans found so many copies of the devil incarnate when they had the presidency, it's impressive! Those picks last for decades, and we have been suffering and continue to, and will until one of the conservative wing drops out.

Love that reggae!
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 01, 2013 10:05PM
I just saw a video from the '80s with Reagan announcing to a large crowd that he was committing $20 Million per year towards marijuana eradication and enforcement to which he received a big applause. Fast forward to 2013 and we are spending $13.7 Billion...yes Billion...per year on it.
Re: See how your lying, hypocritical President has been spending your money
July 02, 2013 02:19AM
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east bay herbalist
Revolutions do n't always need to be in the form of war and violence. It can simply be in the form of the people revolting against the status quo and set a new presidence for what WE THE PEOPLE want.

The problem is "we the people" are just as divided as our politicians. For every progressive who would like to see a Bernie Sanders as president, there is another "revolutionary" who sides with Rick Santorum.
Unfortunately, Obama might be the most progressive president I may see in my lifetime. He's certainly the most liberal since Jimmy Carter, who (from what I've read) is living proof telling people what they need to hear rather than what they want to hear is political suicide. And for all his faults, Obama is still preferable to the gangster Cheney, the warhawk McCain and the autocrat Romney. But he still shouldn't get a free pass on his Drug War & Patriot Act BS from progressives just because he has a D in front of his name.
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