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Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl

Posted by papa ray 
papa ray
Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 11:52AM
For 2005, it is official: our #1 selling reggae title(more than any Marley collection, more than Midnite), is his release Live @ Stubbs. Give it up
to the chanting Hasidic beat-box...
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 11:55AM
Sorry Papa, but for me it's always been about quality, not quantity. Of course I am not in the bizness of selling records, so you may have a different outlook.

Are you implying that Midnite waz in the running for #1 selling reggae title? I don't recall a (genuine) Midnite album having been released in over 2 years now, so it wouldn't surprise me that they are 'off the charts'....
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 12:48PM

Matisyahu and Midnite are completely different styles of reggae music. One is for jumping up and down: the other for meditation...

-s
TR-808
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 12:51PM

... and both are for people who can't find the real, authentic Jamiacan stuff

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Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 12:53PM
..... or both are for people who are openminded enough to know that good reggae can come from other places than just Jamaica
jb welda
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 12:56PM
tr always has a way of cutting to the chase.

even if i dont really always agree with the midnite angle.

one love
jah bill
TR-808
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 12:58PM

fair enough, jb.

on the other hand, "iriea" can save her corrections for sheperding her sheep.

i am more interested in being right-minded than open minded.

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Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:05PM
Yeah, albums like "Handsworth Revolution", "Tribute to the Martyrs" and "Roots Controller" are mere copycats. Now Max Romeo's "Wet Dream", or General Echo's "12" of Pleasure" those are "the real authentic Jamaican stuff"....
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:10PM
only blacks from the south can play the Blues. Stevie Ray Vaughn Sucks, so does Hendrix.
pale ryder
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:11PM
How bout Hotel Fee, I wonder what that is all about...
trinitymlk
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:12PM
Papa Ray,

I'm curious who is buying all of the Matisyahu...is it the reggae and hip-hop oriented customers, or is it more the pop music minded customers who support whatever is hot on MTV?

St. Louis, and University City in particular, also have a large Jewish populations, including a few orthodox temples. Are you seeing this community coming in looking for Matisyahu?

I was hyping the Santa Cruz Days festival to some younger kids from the local university here in Santa Cruz, and they had never heard of Gregory, MIR or Gentleman, but they were definatley ready to throw down $40 to see Matisyahu.

His music does very little for me, but if his mainstream exposure helps to keep up attendance at reggae festivals where I can hear other serious artists, then I say bring him on.

Respect, MK

jb welda
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:13PM
wow for once i agree with ninjacat re: stevie ray vaughn.

ps: hendrix was black but not from the south but certainly spent his share of time on the chitlin circuit.

one love
jah bill
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:14PM
who is buying Bob Marley
TR-808
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:17PM
TR-808
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:18PM

actually i just got a couple Marley singles this week

nice tunes too.. "Stand Up Jamrock"


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Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:19PM
I agree wholeheartedly with the full content and sentiment of the following above stated comment-->
--> His music does very little for me, but if his mainstream exposure helps to keep up attendance at reggae festivals where I can hear other serious artists, then I say bring him on.



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blessid love
ras danny
higher reasoning reggae time
KBOO Portland, Full Strength Community Radio
*Love is a net that catches hearts like fish.*
-Muhammad Ali
*I don't like reggae, I love it*
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:20PM
Okay, we'll make sure to add him to this year's lineup for SNWMF just for you Ras Danny
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:25PM
Pull up, this is JUST a report from the retail trenches, y'know???
Technically, Midnite's 'Let Live' came into our store on 1/11/06.
Midnite has been a big chunk of our reggae sales for a number of
years. I did not know the Midnite-massive did not consider 'Let Live'
a full-fledged release in 05. In No Way did I intend a dis to Midnite, quite the opposite---it was more my own mild surprise to see Matis rack up the sales
he did---I was honestly surprised, and if asked what woulda been #1 in 2005 I woulda guessed 'Let Live' or a Marley title.

Daniel, OF COURSE it is about the quality---to me, and you.
But if quality was a paramount concern of the public's buying habits mebbe I'd be selling way more Delroy Wilson or Congos or whoever than Matis, & that ain't the case. And what makes my turntable at home, and my turntables on the set, pretty much NEVER coincides w/ what is #1-flavor-of-the-week/month/year.

Brother & sisters, if po' Mr Downchild Papa Ray ONLY sold what he thought came
under the heading 'Nothing But The Best, and Later For The Garbage', my store
coulda never survived. All you can do is try to carry what You Know is Quality,
and also have an eye for what else may sell, regardless of quality. Whenever
I check for an employee of mine turning up their noses @ what a customer might be buying, I remind that's how each of us get our weekly check, and as the saying goes, It's All Ear Candy. I call this R & B---Record Business.
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:30PM
np, Daniel



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blessid love
ras danny
higher reasoning reggae time
KBOO Portland, Full Strength Community Radio
*Love is a net that catches hearts like fish.*
-Muhammad Ali
*I don't like reggae, I love it*
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:31PM
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:35PM
I don't think anyone was trying to dis you papa for being the best record store in between the left and right coasts..... We all know you gotta give the people what they want, just like Warren does, even if it may not be your cup of tea. It just goes to show you that MTV, Conan and the like DO have an impact on things....
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:49PM
By the by Ninja & Bill, i consider you both discerning men of taste, but let me tell you both something: I've been doing my soul/blues radio show 18 years, and
am well-known for not playing crap. The person has to have a song, a feeling,
and has to have a convincing vocal. IMO, Stevie Ray Vaughan had it all, and it ain't just my opinion---a large slice of my audience in st louis IS black, and
many more times than once that, request for SRV comes from one of my black
listeners, listeners WHO KNOW this music, have seen the cream of blues & soul
players, and they nuh really go for the oke-doke. And Albert King, who I watched and knew for a number of decades 'round these parts(he lived around here
long long time), LOVED SRV, and by nature he was not a man to embrace another player, certainly one coming so heavily out of his style. Vaughan very cannily fused Hendrix w/ Albert(and mastered many other styles) to create a convincing style. And he obviously felt what he sang. i recommend the Albert/Jimmy set
'In Session' for a great insight into the classic 'Fathers & Sons' dynamic. I would
especially direct Ninja &Bill to Albert's sage comments and encouragements to
the younger player.

Oh, anuuda thang---Hendrix couldplay the bitch out of the blues.
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:49PM
maybe it is me..but Virgin Island/st croix/whatever reggae just does not seem right to me..prolly a bias..I could always accept british reggae 'cause most of those artists were first generation JA or transplanted Jamaicans.

Maybe that is also true of the midnite crew..etc..

But..in general.."if it is not from yard...it can't be hard"

jah guide
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:56PM
in dem (Midnite) own words...

"I Rasta Man still, Stand."

Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:58PM
I hav ta agree with ya papa ray, SRV was da s#@t, pure an simple... nun can rilly touch his passion, determination, and style; while mimicing others somewhat, he had his own ingredient to make the brew POTENT!!! nuh question Hendrix mashed it up far and away what sum can only dream of in these daze... bless deh memories, cas dem gimme sum, great ones! & the Icebreaker, ....whew!!!



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blessid love
ras danny
higher reasoning reggae time
KBOO Portland, Full Strength Community Radio
*Love is a net that catches hearts like fish.*
-Muhammad Ali
*I don't like reggae, I love it*
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 01:59PM
Daniel, who coulda guessed the surprise runner in dis woulda been a hasidic
cat from brooklyn??? As far as slack rekkuds, as an astute observer once stated,
'slackness chases culture', and I admit there are some 'slack' records(such as
Maxie's 'Dream') I'm rather fond of. But then, I'm a bald-head selecta' who's
promoted both Rudy Ray Moore and Israel Vibration in my life, and the Dolemite won hands-down as a nice-guy, no-pain-in-the-ass-professional, so what does that say?

Trinity, your surmise certainly is on the mark---fact is,
I made sure every Jewish community contact in the Louie got a press release.
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 02:00PM
oooops, my bad, dats Albert COLLINS not King... sorry



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blessid love
ras danny
higher reasoning reggae time
KBOO Portland, Full Strength Community Radio
*Love is a net that catches hearts like fish.*
-Muhammad Ali
*I don't like reggae, I love it*
jb welda
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 02:38PM
papa ray im pretty sure ninja was being sarcastic about the srv part.

one love
jah bill
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 27, 2006 03:33PM
quite, thank you Bill it has been a while since we have "spoken".. Point being it isn't the package, it is the product. Matis is legit. I see why somepeople don't like him and it is all good, but to not like an aritist because of the kind of people who listen to him seesm strange seeing as you know Joe College is the Number 1 buyer of all BMW's music
matt
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 28, 2006 07:16AM
jb,
when did hendrix ever spend time on the chitlin circuit?
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 28, 2006 08:30AM
Actually matt, he did sets w/ Little Richard & the original Isley Brothers,
and fill-in one nighters w/ I think w/ The Ike&Tina Review. At that time,
at least the latter two acts would have been working in all-black venues.
Don't know if I'd call that 'chitlin' necessarily, but sho' nuff R&B.

Ninja, my sarcasm filter musta been turned off. Any chance you making that U-Roy set in SF?? If so, I would enjoy meeting you.
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 28, 2006 10:46AM
Did I hear someone mention Rudy Ray Moore? smiling smiley

The Pool Shootin' Monkey.....

Respect-

DJ Bahilman
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 28, 2006 10:47AM
he's from PA, Crown Heights to be exact- not Brooklyn
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 28, 2006 10:55AM
this artist is very good i hear the massive saying...that good eh?
nevr heard him, yet...
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 28, 2006 11:25AM
Crown Heights, NY
A neighborhood of Brooklyn
w/ a huge hasidic population
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 29, 2006 01:31PM
Crown Heights in in the heart of the beast
NYC>.. my home town..
no PA here i dont think

more love to the man of G-D

representing Masciach



"It takes a whole village to raise a child" African Proverb
Kel-I Bubbler
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 29, 2006 05:20PM
No negativity towards Matisyahu, is this what his disks have on the side of them?


EPIC ©(P) 2005 SONY BMG MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT

If that is the case it might be one reason why he is getting a lot of notoriety quickly?
baldhed
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 29, 2006 05:46PM
yuh cyaan dis HENDRIX........... you crazy motherf*ckers
drix was only around for 4 years!!!
who else is gonna have that kinda impact in so short of a time?!?
godamnit get yer dreads right!!
jb welda
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 29, 2006 05:56PM
hendrix was actually "around" a whole lot longer than four years. he was "around" like papa ray says and what i was referring to earlier by "chitlin circuit" were his days as backup for curtis knight, a mainstay on the chitlin circuit. in fact when hendrix was "around", several curtis knight albums that included "james" hendrix in the band were issued really exploiting hendrix's name in their billing.

generally speaking, big artists like hendrix dont just come out of nowhere, though those less familiar with their actual background may assume so. most work their way up the hard way, especially in the blues into pop genre.

one love
jah bill
baldhed
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 29, 2006 06:02PM
he was famous for 4 years..............u dont need to correct everything
playing with ike & tina dont count!
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 29, 2006 09:53PM
"Playing with Ike & Tina Turner don't count!' ????????????????????!!!!?????????

Don't even know where to go w/ a statement like that, so I'll just leave it alone.
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 30, 2006 02:53PM
>what ever happened to 'ace of base' boy they really had the reggae beat too!
: ) : ) : )
-RASpects+
Lori
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 30, 2006 11:49PM
all you guys who are "unsure" of this talent.............
have you seen him live and up close?
............
the dif. in Midnite and Matis.,
jumpin' and meditation is the truth!
Midnite, ya check and listen, think and meditation.(etc.etc....)
Matis. has words, music and da jumpin' vibes!!
Livin' in Igene we get the small town, intimate vibes.
There is NO voice like Vaughn's voice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and Matis. has some original, irie vibes
JAH KNOW
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 31, 2006 06:09AM
The men don't know, but the little girls understand.
jb welda
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 31, 2006 08:53AM
living in eugene, youre starved for entertainment. maybe thats what the men know but the little girls dont understand.

one love
jah bill
Lori
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 31, 2006 11:14AM
Little girls.....
I'm no little girl.
29 in May, Mother and buiness owner..na likkle
papa ray
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
January 31, 2006 11:40AM
Miz lori, no dis meant to yuh, I'm sure you is full-grown.

I wuz quoting Willie Dixon's famous line from 'Back Door Man', a hit for bluesman Howlin' Wolf and a well-known version from the Doors.

Many here will know this couplet, but here's the lyric:

'I am the back-door man, I am a back-door man,
Well the men don't know
But the little girls understand' .

Understand??
Lori
Re: Matisyahu #1 For Sales @Vintage Vinyl
February 01, 2006 09:14AM
I see, easier to hear comimg from you.
rather than "don't understand"
bless
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