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Genre Bashing

Posted by alireggae 
Genre Bashing
March 07, 2006 11:29PM
1) Disco (Abba, Bee Gee's etc. This is the type of music listened to by young nightclub goers who think that it is retro and cool - it's not, it's ****. It is played by middle aged DJ's who would like to get it on with the afore mentioned young girlies who think they like it.)

2) Jazz (The type where the musicians play random, out of key notes and call them things like E minor diminished 8th with an augmented 2nd and a newly invented 42nd for good measure. People who like this kind of 'music' think they are better and cooler than everyone else and that all music that came before or after is infuenced by it. In actual fact these people know nothing about music.)

3) Angsty, American, singer-songwriter shite. (Alanis Morrissette etc. People who like this kind of music think they are profound - they're not - they're either teenagers with no friends or middle aged couples who go to dinner parties with other couples, drink chardonay (but not too much. because they're driving) and complain about the traffic on the A67 on the way to the afore mentioned dinner.)

4) Hippy music (Grateful Dead etc)

5) Counting Crows (They're so ****, they deserve a genre of their own.)



I like snow
Re: Genre Bashing
March 07, 2006 11:30PM
Yeah. Everything you don't like SUCKS! DOWN WITH MUSICAL DIVERSITY!
jb welda
Re: Genre Bashing
March 07, 2006 11:34PM
re jazz: i forgot who said it:

do it once its a mistake, do it twice, its jazz.

maybe the same guy who said:

jazz is not dead it just smells funny.

one love
jah bill
Acacia
Re: Genre Bashing
March 07, 2006 11:35PM
I love disco
Re: Genre Bashing
March 07, 2006 11:39PM
A jazz fan would have a pretty easy time bashing reggae, too:

"A bunch of stoned out Jamaican hippies playing motonous, boring, unenergetic music with incomprehensible lyrics for an equally stoned out audience of American neo-hippies."

Each to his own.

(and, BTW, even though I love reggae, the Grateful Dead happens to be my favorite band)
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 02:36AM
Yeah. Everything you don't like SUCKS! DOWN WITH MUSICAL DIVERSITY!

Damn right.



I like snow
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 07:05AM
Haha - well it appears ali's from New Zealand folks, so we should cut him some slack. Jk man - I thought it was funny actually, even if I do like the Dead, K C & the Sunshine Band (I kid you not) and lots of Jazz (John Zorn's Naked City anyone? acid jazz on steriods). You can keep Counting Crows.

About the only thing I consistently dislike is that twangy pseudo-country-pop crap my brother listens to.
Sanka Grandi
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 07:26AM
Author: alireggae (---.static.ihug.co.nz)
Date: 03-07-06 15:29

...cutted...

2) Jazz (The type where the musicians play random, out of key notes and call them things like E minor diminished 8th with an augmented 2nd and a newly invented 42nd for good measure."

LOL...my thoughts exactly when I listen to 'Freestyle' Jazz.
Sanka Grandi
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 07:30AM
Author: b_kel (---.ucsc.edu)
Date: 03-07-06 15:39

A jazz fan would have a pretty easy time bashing reggae, too:

"A bunch of stoned out Jamaican hippies playing motonous, boring, unenergetic music with incomprehensible lyrics for an equally stoned out audience of American neo-hippies."

You forgot to add the singing out of key partwinking smiley

R_D
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 10:41AM
See you haven't given up on your crusade against Jazz, Ali!!


Maybe you just heard Kenny G. and haven't been OK since. winking smiley
papa ray
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 02:49PM
Ali, you might be surprised how many of the foundation players in
jamaican music absolutely revered and looked up to the players of instruments in jazz. But, as we say inna my town when someone is shown something and doesn't get it, 'Well, he ain't ready yet'. Many called, few chosen.

Hey dubguy, I went to school long ago with John Zorn. Nice times.

JB, I think those lines were said by someone back in the 50s who was dreaming
of Kay Kaiser, and thought Pat Boone seemed to be a nice young man singing those Negro songs.
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 04:36PM
Don Drummond used to be a regular on the Downbeat magazine polls for best trombonist. Look it up in their archives. Likewise for Toots in the vocalist category. The music program at the Alpha Boys' School was all about the study of jazz. One could say that reggae could not have come about without the jazz knowledge of Don D, Roland Alphonso, Clue J, Lloyd Knibbs and many others. And as a (reformed) guitarist, don't even get me started about Ernie Ranglin.
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:04PM
Rana ridibunda



Post Edited (03-08-06 16:55)
papa ray
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:18PM
Actually, back in de late 70s, I'd say the disco craze wuz what made me look
deeper into reggae than before: soul music wasn't providing the slower grooves
I wanted and something as dry & heavy as Spear or Big Youth suddenly made
even more sense---yeah.

Glad you remind folks of that Stamina regarding the jazz groundings of
many of the great players in Jamaica. Upon meeting the members of the Skatalites in the 80s, the gifts I brought were ones I knew they'd love---
Getz, Coltrane, Jimmy Smith. Like hot bread.
jb welda
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:20PM
>JB, I think those lines were said by someone back in the 50s who was dreaming
>of Kay Kaiser, and thought Pat Boone seemed to be a nice young man singing
>those Negro songs.

i didnt know frank zappa was being quoted back in the fifties.

one love
jah bill
riffy
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:21PM
Gilberto is a teacher
papa ray
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:31PM
JB, I never saw those lines attributed to Zappa, who, given his love for
deranged/over-arching music designs, made me think of him as the Stan Kenton of prog-rock at times. Perhaps he wuz repeating dem, cause it
had been said(not only of avant guarde but even hard bop) ad nauseum.
An' I betcha Frank did so w/ his ample tongue inna cheek.

Remember, Zappa was gaga over Beefheart's stone-forays into his own
free-form/arranged avant guarde sounds, and reportedly berated members of the Mothers w/ a copy of 'Trout Mask Replica'(one wonderfully Out-To-Lunch set),
saying to them 'why can't you guys do anything like this?'

I'd love to sit up in a studio and mix a 'Beefheart In Dub' set.....
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:35PM
Not to mentioon groups like groundation who have a horn section made up of JAZZ musicians
riffy
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:37PM
Dave Brubeck anyone? what are your thoughts on Funky Feathers....and Hot Rats album by Frank. gotta luv his weirdness.
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:44PM
Rana ridibunda



Post Edited (03-08-06 16:55)
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 05:58PM
musicians play music business types market it so the seerate it into genre's and the like, but once th ehorn and the drum get going it is all music
HIGHPRAISE
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 06:05PM
Cymande and Mandrill .. Crucial ,imo .
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 07:17PM
<re jazz: i forgot who said it:

do it once its a mistake, do it twice, its jazz.

maybe the same guy who said:

jazz is not dead it just smells funny>

Glad that King Tubby didn't heed that comment, he was a huge jazz fan himself.

But, hey, I don't mind if the jazz records are overlooked.......more for me smiling smiley

One love
be well
eric v
pale ryder
Re: Genre Bashing
March 08, 2006 07:26PM
Sonny Rollins - The Blue note years, some of the best B-Bop I've ever heard....
Re: Genre Bashing
March 09, 2006 08:50PM
Gott a love Zappa. He's just weird enough to be cool without being too weird for me (Not to mention being a great, inventive guitarist) he seamlessly blended psychedellic/acid rock with jazz and sopken word weirdness into a new, genre-defying sound.

And 'Hot Rats' is one of his best albums.
riffy
Re: Genre Bashing
March 09, 2006 11:07PM
pale ryder,
Sonny from Seattle?
bun
Re: Genre Bashing
March 09, 2006 11:35PM
bun
Re: Genre Bashing
March 09, 2006 11:36PM
Its been a while...

Re: Genre Bashing
March 10, 2006 01:30AM
reggae.....it all sounds the sames
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